2 questions re: sitting against a back wall.

Hi, Ok I think I'm now replacing my AVR with the 3312 and have 2 more questions re:setup. I sit against a back wall and currently have my rear speakers standing in the corners facing (towed in) the centre speaker... Is this the best way to configure rears or should I face them straight ahead (facing the wides) or turn them completly to facing each other (pointing directly at the listening position)? Also, I am correct in saying that when I use the mic to set up, it should be 18" away from the back wall and 18" from the set of the couch? Thanks in advance.
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    Chris Kyriakakis

    It's best to have dipoles as surround speakers so that you get a more diffuse surround field.  With direct radiators it's probably best to point them as you have to avoid localizing sounds in the surrounds.

    Correct on the mic distance from the back wall.

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    Paddy

    Thanks again Chris,

    So by that, did you say its best to point the reasrs directly at the listner? or is best to point them toward the front/centre when they are level with the back wall and my seating area. If i face them toward me, then they will face each other.. if i face them straight ahead (but a little towed in toward the centre speaker) then they dont face each other but do pass my ears on each side... If that makes sense..

     

    Basically, if you sit on a back wall with a

    surround L/R next to you (direct Radiators) should you face them toward the TV, Face them direct at each other passing over the top of your head, or sit them on the back wall facing directly ahead with a little tow in toward the TV?

     

    Thanks again, and cheers for the advice. I am placing an oder todat for my 3312 or 4311 (which ever i quickest.

     

    I will be using your XT32 room EQ and feel that your advicehas helped me to get started when it arrives.

     

    Thanks again and if you have any tips for making my sound better with my current setup, please let me know as i am coming from MCACC and hoping that your product gives me as good an experience.

     

    The only reason i left poineer is they have NO NIGHT MODES? How stupid is that when you make avrs for HOME cinemas?

     

    As you just said "probably best to point them as"

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    Paddy

    Which is best for rears:

    /___\

    -___-

    |___|

     

    /\ = facing ahead toward the TV area with a little tow in.

    -- = facing each other.

    || = facing straight ahead toward the TV area with NO tow in.

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    Paddy

    In the images above the "___" would be the couch seated against a back wall and the TV would be above:

    • TV -

    /___\

    Sorry fore the triple post but i cant seem to edit?

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    Chris Kyriakakis

    It's best to have diffuse sound because that better matches how the movie content is mixed.  If you don't have dipoles, then the direct radiators should face away from your ears to become less localized and more diffuse.  In your diagram, I would go with the facing forward version.

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    Paddy

    Thanks Chris,

    I'll make it so :)

    I'm going with a 7.2 DSX wide setup with my Denon 4311. I'll move the rears to face straight ahead and will add dipoles as my rear surrounds during the holidays.

    Thanks again.

    Much appreciated and keep up the great work, it's amazing techno,oft and it's even more admirable that you take the time out to actually speak to your customers and help them. Maybe all business will be as forthcoming and welcoming one day.

    Thanks again,

    Paddy.

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    Allan Pedley

    Hi Chris

    I have a setup a little like above i.e sitting very close to a back wall and my 2 rear surrounds are kef 3001 speakers pointing at each other so direct at me.

     

    I have tried to locate dipoles to match the kef setup so far drawn a blank.

    So point 1 sould the speakers point at my front wides or the front centre please.

    I would also like to add surround back speaker / s do you think being close to the back wall this would add benifit or would it be a waste of time.

    I have available a Kef centre i could use (think i read somewhere a centre speaker is good if only 1 speaker is being used) I could also add 2 direct radiator speakers if i did so how would you recommend pointing please.

     

    The room is 14 x 12 feet and the main wall is on the long side fires across rest of setup is

    2 kef iq7 main front

    2 kef iq10 wide's

    2 kef 3001 highs

    1 Kef sub ... should i add second sub

    surround backs 2 kef 3001

     

    Thank you

     

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    Allan Pedley

    Sorry forgot the centre speaker is a Kef iq6c

     

    Thanks

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    Chris Kyriakakis

    Hi Allan,

    The surrounds should not be localizable.  That's the reason it is recommended to use dipoles.  If that's not possible, then they should probably not point directly at the listening position.

    I am not sure there is much benefit in adding a back surround speaker in this situation.  There is no harm in trying it, but I suspect it will be too distracting to have that behind you.

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    Allan Pedley

    Hi Chris

     

    Many thanks for such a fast reply and sounds great advice

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